[REPOST] MBTI types
Mar 25, 2017 7:56:31 GMT -8
Post by Mail Robot on Mar 25, 2017 7:56:31 GMT -8
[THIS THREAD WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED SEPTEMBER 11, 2014.]
Odi et Amo (9/11/14):
Jungian cognitive functions and MBTI is something that has gripped me pretty recently, not as the falsely deterministic, behavioral, & attributive pseudoscience for which it is usually taken and for which it is usually criticized, but as a looser predictor for cognitive processes and tool for introspection and self-understanding.
I found myself typing people on the forum, so I was curious -- for those familiar, what are your types, Critically Touched?
I'm INFJ. Ni/Fe/Ti/Se.
For those unfamiliar (and curious), there are countless sources on the web that explain the functions and how each type's function stacks are constructed. The best that I have found are the various subreddits dedicated to MBTI and a website called personalityjunkie.com. In general, be wary of tests, as they focus on the false letter dichotomies and not on function use.
Freudian Vampire:
According to www.humanmetrics.com, I am INTP: moderate preference of Introversion over Extroversion (56%), moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (25%), moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%) and moderate preference of Perceiving over Judging (44%).
I did however take the test in about two minutes and put very little consideration into my decision, so if I spent more time and thought my results may be different.
I have a sneaking suspicion that most people here on this site will be INxy like you and me.
Iguana-on-a-stick:
I like the five factor model better.
Jung questionaires tend to annoy me. Do I feel involved in TV soaps? I don't watch the damn things! And if I did, I would not be involved because they're crap. But I do feel involved in "Buffy." And what does being more interested in a general idea than the details of its realization -mean-? I can imagine a number of things it might mean.
"Strict observance of the established rules is likely to prevent a good outcome" What the hell? Okay, now replace "the established rules" with "traffic rules." Go ahead. Tell me that observing them will prevent a good outcome. Again, I get what they mean, but that's just terrible phrasing. Would it really have hurt to write "Flexibility is more important than strictly observing rules" or something?
Bloody hell. Does anybody know a better test?
Odi et Amo:
My favorite tests directly assess cognitive function strength & preference - cognitivequiz.com/quiz.html & www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm - but honestly the best way to figure out your type is by reading descriptions and looking within yourself.
Other Scott:
Well, I think TV soaps is a generic term meant to mean fictional stuff like Buffy rather than shows about real estate. At least, that's how I answered it.
I like the true colours personality test better myself, even if it generalizes a bit too much.
It does interest me how these things can change though. I think if I did this two years ago I would be more in FVs 56% range of introvert to extrovert, and now I'm down to 11%. And that's only because while I like being in social situations, I'm still not all that good at them.
That strict observance of established rules question was a little bit stupid. I'm not really a rules person by and large, but just ignoring them is obviously a bad idea.
Oh, I'm INTP like Freudian. And I harshly judge those J people.
Odi et Amo:
The folly is, dear Scott, that your dominant function is a judging function(Ti), while mine is a perceiving function (Ni). Being "J" means nothing intrinsically.
What each dichotomy actually does is --
I/E -- is your dominant function introverted or extraverted?
N/S -- is your favored perceiving function (the subconscious processing of information) a sensing function or an intuition function?
T/F -- is your favored judging function (the conscious systematizing of information) a feeling function or a thinking function?
P/J -- among your top two functions, one of which will be introverted and one of which will be extraverted, one of which will a be perceiving function and one of which will be a judging function, will your judging function be extraverted and perceiving function be introverted (J) or vice versa (P)?
Every type has one feeling function, one thinking function, one intuition function, and one sensing function. The dominant is the opposite of the inferior (for an INTP, Ti & Fe), while the auxiliary is the opposite of the tertiary (Ne & Si).
What does each function do?
Se (extraverted sensing) -- takes in information in a clear, unfiltered, fully-in-the-moment way.
Si (introverted sensing) -- takes in information and compares it to stores of past information.
Ne (extraverted intuition) -- takes in a piece of information and sees its multiple different possibilities. Divergent abstraction.
Ni (introverted intuition) -- takes pieces of information and fuses them into a singular pattern/conclusion. Convergent abstraction.
Fe (extraverted feeling) -- systemizes values/principles according to a collective standard. Strongly harmony-seeking.
Fi (introverted feeling) -- systemizes values/principles according to an individual standard. Strongly authenticity-seeking.
Te (extraverted thinking) -- systemizes logical standards according to objective, external standards.
Ti (introverted thinking) -- systemized logical standards according to subjective, internal standards.
MikeJer:
I haven't taken any quizzes, but I think I'm an INTP.
This.
Boscalyn:
INFJ. People who spend their time on internet forum tend to be introverts for obvious reasons, and I think it's safe to say they'd be seeking out authenticity.
Sort of curious what you pegged everyone as, Odi.
Jay:
INTP. But the spectrum always varies. I'm usually 90% on I and ~60 on N. T takes a moderate preference over F (I've had it flip before) and P usually wins out over J but I've scored a J five or six times.
Took Odi et Amo's supplementary keys2cognition test and got Dominant Process of Introverted Thinking and Auxiliary Process of Extroverted Intuiting. Makes sense. I tend to think a lot on my own and try to sort out what will and will not work, but I'm not especially into the universal application of theory (even if I love to look for patterns) and tend to fly by my instruments socially by reading reactions. Not that my foresight is great
Firewalkwithme:
Wow, this is an INxx love-fest!
I´m an INFJ as well.
For me it makes a lot of sense that I would be drawn to a site like criticallytouched.com. I think what hooked me was Mike´s willingness to give every episode, every season, every character etc. the benefit of the doubt and find good within the bad and vice versa. I love it when someone takes the time to look at something from a lot of different angles instead of viewing things only in black and white-terms. What was also very appealing to me was Mike´s mission statement to show the internet the good things about the often-maglined seasons 4-7 of "Buffy".
I also enjoy reading well-written, analytical reviews about television that aren´t just scratching the surface and do more than just showing a constantly (inappropriate) snarky and superior attitude towards the medium. (The worst offender in this case would be the televisionwithoutpity-reviews of "Buffy". Headache-inducing to read and without any depth whatsoever.)
Jeremy:
I have no idea what you're all talking about, but I just took the test and it tells me I'm ISTJ.
However, they tell me that the "Sensing" factor beat out the "Feeling" factor by the slimmest of margins. So don't worry, I'm not that different from the rest of you, and I might still be a good fit for Critically Touched after all.
Argh. Now they've made me self-conscious.
Odi et Amo:
Looks like Critically Touched is shaping up into INTPs on one side and INFJs on the other, with Jeremy in the middle of the battlefield holding a tattered flag.
Odi et Amo:
I had Freudian & Alex as INTJ (Alex just exudes Ni). Mike definitely INTP. Jay I could see INTP or INFP. Buffyholic I pegged as ESFP. Iguana I think I had as ISTP. I had you as INFJ, and noted I tended best to follow your arguments and discussion points. Jeremy I had as ISTJ. Scott I had as ENTP. Guttersnipe and Zarnium I had as INFP. I have not been lurking that long, so I just have the biggest posters from my time here figured.
Other Scott:
I stopped crying about my ruined joke long enough to try to puzzle through this stuff. I don't think it's helping me tell what I am very well. After puzzling it through, I'm somewhere between ENTP and INTP, which is exactly what the test (and Odi, once you judge introverted and extroverted relative to the other members of the forum, I guess) were saying.
Mostly this stuff makes my head hurt.
Odi et Amo (9/11/14):
Jungian cognitive functions and MBTI is something that has gripped me pretty recently, not as the falsely deterministic, behavioral, & attributive pseudoscience for which it is usually taken and for which it is usually criticized, but as a looser predictor for cognitive processes and tool for introspection and self-understanding.
I found myself typing people on the forum, so I was curious -- for those familiar, what are your types, Critically Touched?
I'm INFJ. Ni/Fe/Ti/Se.
For those unfamiliar (and curious), there are countless sources on the web that explain the functions and how each type's function stacks are constructed. The best that I have found are the various subreddits dedicated to MBTI and a website called personalityjunkie.com. In general, be wary of tests, as they focus on the false letter dichotomies and not on function use.
Freudian Vampire:
According to www.humanmetrics.com, I am INTP: moderate preference of Introversion over Extroversion (56%), moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (25%), moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%) and moderate preference of Perceiving over Judging (44%).
I did however take the test in about two minutes and put very little consideration into my decision, so if I spent more time and thought my results may be different.
I have a sneaking suspicion that most people here on this site will be INxy like you and me.
Iguana-on-a-stick:
I like the five factor model better.
Jung questionaires tend to annoy me. Do I feel involved in TV soaps? I don't watch the damn things! And if I did, I would not be involved because they're crap. But I do feel involved in "Buffy." And what does being more interested in a general idea than the details of its realization -mean-? I can imagine a number of things it might mean.
"Strict observance of the established rules is likely to prevent a good outcome" What the hell? Okay, now replace "the established rules" with "traffic rules." Go ahead. Tell me that observing them will prevent a good outcome. Again, I get what they mean, but that's just terrible phrasing. Would it really have hurt to write "Flexibility is more important than strictly observing rules" or something?
Bloody hell. Does anybody know a better test?
Odi et Amo:
My favorite tests directly assess cognitive function strength & preference - cognitivequiz.com/quiz.html & www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm - but honestly the best way to figure out your type is by reading descriptions and looking within yourself.
Other Scott:
Well, I think TV soaps is a generic term meant to mean fictional stuff like Buffy rather than shows about real estate. At least, that's how I answered it.
I like the true colours personality test better myself, even if it generalizes a bit too much.
It does interest me how these things can change though. I think if I did this two years ago I would be more in FVs 56% range of introvert to extrovert, and now I'm down to 11%. And that's only because while I like being in social situations, I'm still not all that good at them.
That strict observance of established rules question was a little bit stupid. I'm not really a rules person by and large, but just ignoring them is obviously a bad idea.
Oh, I'm INTP like Freudian. And I harshly judge those J people.
Odi et Amo:
Oh, I'm INTP like Freudian. And I harshly judge those J people.
The folly is, dear Scott, that your dominant function is a judging function(Ti), while mine is a perceiving function (Ni). Being "J" means nothing intrinsically.
What each dichotomy actually does is --
I/E -- is your dominant function introverted or extraverted?
N/S -- is your favored perceiving function (the subconscious processing of information) a sensing function or an intuition function?
T/F -- is your favored judging function (the conscious systematizing of information) a feeling function or a thinking function?
P/J -- among your top two functions, one of which will be introverted and one of which will be extraverted, one of which will a be perceiving function and one of which will be a judging function, will your judging function be extraverted and perceiving function be introverted (J) or vice versa (P)?
Every type has one feeling function, one thinking function, one intuition function, and one sensing function. The dominant is the opposite of the inferior (for an INTP, Ti & Fe), while the auxiliary is the opposite of the tertiary (Ne & Si).
What does each function do?
Se (extraverted sensing) -- takes in information in a clear, unfiltered, fully-in-the-moment way.
Si (introverted sensing) -- takes in information and compares it to stores of past information.
Ne (extraverted intuition) -- takes in a piece of information and sees its multiple different possibilities. Divergent abstraction.
Ni (introverted intuition) -- takes pieces of information and fuses them into a singular pattern/conclusion. Convergent abstraction.
Fe (extraverted feeling) -- systemizes values/principles according to a collective standard. Strongly harmony-seeking.
Fi (introverted feeling) -- systemizes values/principles according to an individual standard. Strongly authenticity-seeking.
Te (extraverted thinking) -- systemizes logical standards according to objective, external standards.
Ti (introverted thinking) -- systemized logical standards according to subjective, internal standards.
MikeJer:
I haven't taken any quizzes, but I think I'm an INTP.
I have a sneaking suspicion that most people here on this site will be INxy like you and me.
This.
Boscalyn:
INFJ. People who spend their time on internet forum tend to be introverts for obvious reasons, and I think it's safe to say they'd be seeking out authenticity.
Sort of curious what you pegged everyone as, Odi.
Jay:
INTP. But the spectrum always varies. I'm usually 90% on I and ~60 on N. T takes a moderate preference over F (I've had it flip before) and P usually wins out over J but I've scored a J five or six times.
Took Odi et Amo's supplementary keys2cognition test and got Dominant Process of Introverted Thinking and Auxiliary Process of Extroverted Intuiting. Makes sense. I tend to think a lot on my own and try to sort out what will and will not work, but I'm not especially into the universal application of theory (even if I love to look for patterns) and tend to fly by my instruments socially by reading reactions. Not that my foresight is great
Firewalkwithme:
Wow, this is an INxx love-fest!
I´m an INFJ as well.
For me it makes a lot of sense that I would be drawn to a site like criticallytouched.com. I think what hooked me was Mike´s willingness to give every episode, every season, every character etc. the benefit of the doubt and find good within the bad and vice versa. I love it when someone takes the time to look at something from a lot of different angles instead of viewing things only in black and white-terms. What was also very appealing to me was Mike´s mission statement to show the internet the good things about the often-maglined seasons 4-7 of "Buffy".
I also enjoy reading well-written, analytical reviews about television that aren´t just scratching the surface and do more than just showing a constantly (inappropriate) snarky and superior attitude towards the medium. (The worst offender in this case would be the televisionwithoutpity-reviews of "Buffy". Headache-inducing to read and without any depth whatsoever.)
Jeremy:
I have no idea what you're all talking about, but I just took the test and it tells me I'm ISTJ.
However, they tell me that the "Sensing" factor beat out the "Feeling" factor by the slimmest of margins. So don't worry, I'm not that different from the rest of you, and I might still be a good fit for Critically Touched after all.
Argh. Now they've made me self-conscious.
Odi et Amo:
Looks like Critically Touched is shaping up into INTPs on one side and INFJs on the other, with Jeremy in the middle of the battlefield holding a tattered flag.
Odi et Amo:
INFJ. People who spend their time on internet forum tend to be introverts for obvious reasons, and I think it's safe to say they'd be seeking out authenticity.
Sort of curious what you pegged everyone as, Odi.
Sort of curious what you pegged everyone as, Odi.
I had Freudian & Alex as INTJ (Alex just exudes Ni). Mike definitely INTP. Jay I could see INTP or INFP. Buffyholic I pegged as ESFP. Iguana I think I had as ISTP. I had you as INFJ, and noted I tended best to follow your arguments and discussion points. Jeremy I had as ISTJ. Scott I had as ENTP. Guttersnipe and Zarnium I had as INFP. I have not been lurking that long, so I just have the biggest posters from my time here figured.
Other Scott:
I stopped crying about my ruined joke long enough to try to puzzle through this stuff. I don't think it's helping me tell what I am very well. After puzzling it through, I'm somewhere between ENTP and INTP, which is exactly what the test (and Odi, once you judge introverted and extroverted relative to the other members of the forum, I guess) were saying.
Mostly this stuff makes my head hurt.