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Post by ThirdMan on Aug 22, 2017 22:38:19 GMT -8
Twitter can indeed be little more than a giant snarkfest at times.
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Post by unkinhead on Aug 22, 2017 22:50:48 GMT -8
Just reading some articles over this Joss Whedon mess. Interesting to watch the news hounds and feminist cultists go nuts. Suddenly Joss Whedon was "never a feminist" and all his works now make perfect sense with this new piece of information how he was only "performing" the role of a feminist. Lol.
There's a kind of delightful irony of being picked apart by a cancerous subculture that you were labeled a hero of.
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Post by Zarnium on Aug 23, 2017 2:47:02 GMT -8
There's a kind of delightful irony of being picked apart by a cancerous subculture that you were labeled a hero of. Ok, please. A lot of people are upset by this. You don't have to agree, but let's leave the sweeping perjoratives and schadenfreude at the door.
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Post by unkinhead on Aug 23, 2017 6:42:36 GMT -8
Ok, please. A lot of people are upset by this. You don't have to agree, but let's leave the sweeping perjoratives and schadenfreude at the door. Sweeping perjoratives? Shall I refrain from the same kind of perjoratives when referring to groups such as the KKK as well? I mean I'm sure there's some good but misguided people in that club too. Clearly I'm indicating in my post that the entire feminist subculture that Joss Whedon was a figurehead of is a group of cultish ravenous idiots with moronic ideological ideas that manifest in bigotry and hatred that further degrade society. You can condemn a group without necessarily implying that everyone in it is evil and worthless. Also I'm not insensitive about the issue, if the allegations are true than I sympathize with Joss's wife. Don't mistake what I said as "this is actually a good thing because..." I just meant that as a saving grace there is a small modicum of satisfaction that comes with it.
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Post by Zarnium on Aug 23, 2017 8:46:38 GMT -8
I know that you probably meant that, but its not really what you said and it's still a crappy sentiment. And I'd be more inclined to give you some grace if you didn't have a history of being so brusque.
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Post by unkinhead on Aug 23, 2017 8:54:19 GMT -8
Yeah well, you know me. Tact is just not saying true stuff.
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Post by Zarnium on Aug 23, 2017 8:59:42 GMT -8
If this is how you wish to conduct yourself, fine, but don't keep complaining when others don't like it or misunderstand you. This is a precedent you set yourself that you've refused to get out of, it's not my or anyone else's responsibility to give you more benefit of the doubt at this point.
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Post by unkinhead on Aug 23, 2017 9:18:35 GMT -8
If this is how you wish to conduct yourself, fine, but don't keep complaining when others don't like it or misunderstand you. This is a precedent you set yourself that you've refused to get out of, it's not my or anyone else's responsibility to give you more benefit of the doubt at this point. Well you risk people not liking something you say anytime you choose to speak. Making assumptions about my statements is not up to me, so I don't have control over people giving me "the benefit of the doubt". If you're not aiming to communicate with an intellectually honest and fair base, and instead choose to make assumptions based on...idk, not liking someone's delivery, then I don't find that interaction to be beneficial and well...don't really care at that point. I'm not antagonistic for the sake of being antagonizing. If something needs to be said or some falsehood needs to be rectified then I'm satisfied with trading potential dislike for truth and clarity. Perhaps you could refrain from replying if you are unsure of my intentions, challenge my assertions, or even ask for clarification in the future. Because I really don't understand the purpose of this statement, especially if you know what I meant: I'm simply voicing my honest opinion, and didn't direct any hostility towards anyone here by any means. So frankly it just seems like a rather rude dismissal without any justification.
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Post by Jeremy on Aug 23, 2017 14:19:16 GMT -8
Everyone on this forum has disagreed with other people here from time to time. The trick is to be respectful and understanding about it. (If someone disagrees with a point you make, responding that you're just saying what "needs to be said" isn't going to help matters.)
I understand that being tactful can sometimes get in the way of making bold points, but it's the polite thing to do, especially on an online forum, where emotions can be difficult to properly read. Tactfulness has been a key factor of CT discussion for over a decade, and I'd like it to remain that way. Thank you.
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Post by unkinhead on Aug 23, 2017 14:31:32 GMT -8
Everyone on this forum has disagreed with other people here from time to time. The trick is to be respectful and understanding about it. (If someone disagrees with a point you make, responding that you're just saying what "needs to be said" isn't going to help matters.) I understand that being tactful can sometimes get in the way of making bold points, but it's the polite thing to do, especially on an online forum, where emotions can be difficult to properly read. Tactfulness has been a key factor of CT discussion for over a decade, and I'd like it to remain that way. Thank you. Right. Nobody disagreed with my point though. Did I say something disrespectful?
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Post by Jeremy on Aug 23, 2017 15:04:29 GMT -8
Well, you responded to this unfortunate Joss Whedon story by mocking feminism. It didn't really reflect the mood of the conversation, nor did stating that you were just saying what "needs to be said."
Not the worst problem; just try to be more careful in the future.
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Post by Incandescence 112 on Aug 23, 2017 16:15:29 GMT -8
I've actually been having fun on Twitter lately. If you haven't seen the CT Twitter page lately, it mostly consists of me making random one-liners about TV, film, and anything else that pops into my head. I try to avoid politics or anything that could cause controversy, and keep things in the spirit of good fun. It helps spread the word about the site, or so I'm hoping. Still, Twitter can be a pretty toxic place if you really immerse yourself in its ugly side - everyone seems to be an extremist, no one has the space to properly develop thoughts, and the most obnoxious people have the loudest voices. I think that, pound for pound, Reddit has been home to more inbred hostility, but you all know my feelings on Reddit. Twitter's fun for me as long as I don't encounter politics on it. Talking about politics online is generally a poor idea imo, but especially on Twitter. Reddit's alright if you stick to the right thread, but if on the wrong one it's the worst site ever invented.
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Post by guttersnipe on Aug 26, 2017 10:38:53 GMT -8
[Things for the first time in a while] So I'm going to do something very unlike me, if I may, which is to (very briefly) derail a thread to ask why you didn't go for a "Watched Films" thread this year. I know late August is a fine time to ask, but these were such a mainstay of '15-'16 that I wondered why you didn't this time. Personally I'm intrigued as to what (and whom) you've been checking out of late.
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Post by ThirdMan on Aug 26, 2017 12:02:19 GMT -8
Snipe, it looks like Zach hasn't updated his Letterboxd diary since last October, either. His last entry was A Streetcar Named Desire.
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Post by guttersnipe on Aug 29, 2017 12:57:27 GMT -8
Wow, I wonder what that's about. I'd hate to think IRL matters got in the way of watching films
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