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Post by Jeremy on Dec 27, 2017 13:09:22 GMT -8
Hm... I think I know what the three network shows on your list are. (Because they'd probably be on mine as well!) Sadly, I've fallen behind on one of the three shows you're thinking of, and will not be able to catch up before year's end. Thus, it will not be included on the list. (This is what happens when there are over 500 TV shows airing in a single year.)
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Post by Quiara on Dec 27, 2017 13:41:13 GMT -8
Hm... I think I know what the three network shows on your list are. (Because they'd probably be on mine as well!) Sadly, I've fallen behind on one of the three shows you're thinking of, and will not be able to catch up before year's end. Thus, it will not be included on the list. (This is what happens when there are over 500 TV shows airing in a single year.) 200-300 shows and several hundred big-budget web series, but tomato tomato. (Of course, I know one of those shows from that thing we're not supposed to mention publicly.)
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 28, 2017 18:19:11 GMT -8
And my list is now up!I'm quite proud of the final piece, but it was a lot of work putting it together. Thank goodness the end of the year only comes once a year.
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Post by ThirdMan on Dec 28, 2017 20:11:34 GMT -8
Good list, Jeremy.
I'm gonna have to find a way to stream Season 3 of The Leftovers, because I'm not ordering HBO anytime soon.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 28, 2017 20:25:01 GMT -8
I got the 7-day free trial through Hulu, just so I could watch the last season of The Leftovers. (I'm quite glad that HBO offers free trials on so many different platforms.)
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Post by ThirdMan on Dec 28, 2017 21:24:42 GMT -8
Yeah, I just watched the Season 3 premiere by...other means. Not as stylistically-audacious as I was expecting, though I'm sure it gets more ambitious as it goes along.
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Post by Jay on Dec 28, 2017 21:49:53 GMT -8
I lament the fact that for all my enthusiasm for the initial two seasons, I had no time to watch the final season of Halt and Catch Fire as it was airing, but I'm glad that it made the list and I'm looking forward to shotgunning it in the coming weeks, but right now I've been busy with PhD stuff in preparation for a conference in Manhattan the first week of January (I'll not ask you or Bosco to hang out, and besides, I'll be busy enough with conference work and college friends if I have time)
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 29, 2017 4:11:46 GMT -8
Yeah, I just watched the Season 3 premiere by...other means. Not as stylistically-audacious as I was expecting, though I'm sure it gets more ambitious as it goes along. Yeah, there are some really stylishly inventive episodes this season, although not really in the first half (excepting "Crazy Whitefella Thinking"). The show excels on that level, as well as multiple others. I lament the fact that for all my enthusiasm for the initial two seasons, I had no time to watch the final season of Halt and Catch Fire as it was airing, but I'm glad that it made the list and I'm looking forward to shotgunning it in the coming weeks, but right now I've been busy with PhD stuff in preparation for a conference in Manhattan the first week of January (I'll not ask you or Bosco to hang out, and besides, I'll be busy enough with conference work and college friends if I have time) Aww... But yes, Halt had a really strong final season - maybe not quite as consistently great as Season Three, but still with plenty of emotional highs. It also has perhaps my favorite series finale of the year, summing up the themes of the show and providing closure in as many ways as I could hope for. (Although it does contain a female-empowerment speech that's kind of heavy-handed. The women on this show deserve better than that.) Let me know what you make of the season once you get to it. Particularly the material surrounding the Clark family.
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Post by ThirdMan on Dec 30, 2017 19:06:20 GMT -8
Though I honestly expected a bit more visual ambition from Season 3 of The Leftovers (given the overwhelming acclaim) -- which is not to say that it doesn't have nice cinematography -- the character work is very good. This season pretty much cast aside all of the annoying elements from the previous seasons. There was probably less intrigue than in Season 2, but it was more cleanly written. Not my favourite of the year, but definitely in my Top 10.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 30, 2017 19:48:41 GMT -8
I think I can guess your #1, but what would be your Top 10 for the year overall?
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Post by ThirdMan on Dec 30, 2017 21:46:30 GMT -8
Uh, of the shows I've seen...
1) Legion
rest in alphabetical order...
Better Call Saul Better Things Bojack Horseman Broad City Fargo GLOW The Leftovers Master of None Rick and Morty
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Post by otherscott on Jan 2, 2018 7:02:18 GMT -8
I think The Leftovers Season 3 was more stylistically inventive from a writing perspective than a visual perspective, JC. That said it did have some wonderful cinematography in the 3rd and final episodes in particular.
In the age of Netflix I'm just happy that the consensus best show of the year is one that shows the great strengths of episodic writing. Each episode of The Leftovers Season 3 is an event, and has a focus that is unique and also ties into the grander themes of what the show is trying to do. I know we live in a binge era, but I'm not sure why this is something the streaming channels in particular are so determined to lose.
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 2, 2018 7:54:07 GMT -8
I've pretty much given up on 13-episode streaming dramas for that reason - way too much time to tell way too little story. 6-8 episodes is usually serviceable, 10 may be pushing the limit, but 13 hours of fully-serialized storytelling just leads to a whole lot of midseason drag.
(I think Netflix structures shows this way because it expects viewers to binge a whole season on a lazy Saturday afternoon. Well, I don't watch TV on Saturday afternoons. Sorry to disappoint.)
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Post by otherscott on Jan 2, 2018 8:06:31 GMT -8
Yes, but you still have those lazy Saturday evenings and lazy Sundays!
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 2, 2018 8:35:02 GMT -8
Nine times out of ten, I log online Saturday night and it seems like half the world has already finished the latest Netflix season. (Especially if it's a season of a Marvel show.) I'm always behind the curve...
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