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Post by Quiara on Mar 26, 2017 20:24:17 GMT -8
This old thread, back again. Not reposting anything because it's not like anything in there was valuable. I mean, unless you consider me calling Sufjan Stevens "Suckjan Stevesuck" valuable. (Which you should!)
Republica - self-titled (1996) Not great, Bob. The overwhelming critical consensus is that these guys are the Brit equivalent of Garbage, which is only true in the sense that the album is kind of trash. Because Garbage was kind of operating in a pop-rock paradigm, where songs are ostensibly supposed to have memorable guitar riffs, or vocal hooks, or ideally, both. This album is way too cool for that; the guitar mostly just provides rockish textures, and the singer just drawls monosyllables with attitude. Much more in the wheelhouse of the Prodigy than any rock band. (Which is appropriate because the singer did vocals on some Prodigy tracks.) The big single was "Ready to Go," which opens and closes the album. The song was apparently retooled for the U.S. market to try to get onto the rock charts? It's actually kinda rockin', so the album probably tanked because us Yankees expected some sick rockin' tunes and were mad to find the album was basically electronica. I'd strip to it. It's the best track on the album by dint of having a chord progression. Which is a bit mean, but the other tracks have the same jungle drum machines and no memorable ostinato so they blend together. Maybe worth a spin if you're into this sort of thing? Eh. Let's say two-out-of-five-stars.
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Post by Jay on Mar 27, 2017 10:17:04 GMT -8
This old thread, back again. Not reposting anything because it's not like anything in there was valuable. I mean, unless you consider me calling Sufjan Stevens "Suckjan Stevesuck" valuable. (Which you should!) I've often characterized Sufjan Stevens' output as the soundtrack for the Peanuts cartoons as written by a manic depressive. I'm also curious if he'll ultimately make more progress in his efforts to release state-themed albums or Christmas-themed albums. ... What, music? I got nothing. I haven't listened to a new album or even an unfamiliar album since the fall.
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Post by Quiara on Apr 3, 2017 10:12:47 GMT -8
The overwhelming critical consensus is that these guys are the Brit equivalent of Garbage, which is only true in the sense that the album is kind of trash. [...] Which is a bit mean, but the other tracks have the same jungle drum machines and no memorable ostinato so they blend together. [...] Maybe worth a spin if you're into this sort of thing? Eh. Let's say two-out-of-five-stars. I am happy to report that I might have spoke too soon! I gave this album a second listen and was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed it once I realized it was house music in rock drag. There are hooks here, actually-- just not guitar riffs (or at the very least, not memorable ones). I think I'm right that they were one-hit-wonders because they hit it big with a rock song despite not being a rock band in any real sense of the word, which is super fascinating. Get Todd Nathanson on this shit stat! I'd also like to apologize to the band's singer for insulting her vocal skills, as I recently remembered she had several minor house hits. This is understandable though because she looks and sounds more like Björk, but with old-school Hollywood glamour in lieu of extraterrestrial... Björkniess. Ain't she purty? Maybe if my selfies came out like that shot at 3:40 I wouldn't delete them out of shame. Admittedly I have no idea how you go from A Midsummer Night's Dream to the Daytona 500 aesthetic-wise, but okay.
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Post by guttersnipe on Apr 3, 2017 12:51:21 GMT -8
The mere mention of Republica instantly puts me in mind of going shopping in Peterborough in the mid-90s, because "Ready to Go" and "Drop Dead Gorgeous" were absolutely ubiquitous on shop radios. They were tied in pretty well to our version of the riot grrrl movement, but I think that was more about the look than any auditory similarity. I never heard anything more from them (I don't think most people did), but those tunes are must-haves for 90s parties and club nights, and I'd still much rather listen to them than certain other British mainstays of that era (Oasis, Suede, Ocean Colour Scene, etc) because they at least had a bit of oomph.
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Post by Quiara on Apr 6, 2017 18:36:12 GMT -8
The mere mention of Republica instantly puts me in mind of going shopping in Peterborough in the mid-90s, because "Ready to Go" and "Drop Dead Gorgeous" were absolutely ubiquitous on shop radios. They were tied in pretty well to our version of the riot grrrl movement, but I think that was more about the look than any auditory similarity. I never heard anything more from them (I don't think most people did), but those tunes are must-haves for 90s parties and club nights, and I'd still much rather listen to them than certain other British mainstays of that era (Oasis, Suede, Ocean Colour Scene, etc) because they at least had a bit of oomph. You know, I figured you were probably a Republica fan on account of your well-documented yellow fever love of house music. It never occurred to me that they were actually popular at one point! I wish "Drop Dead Gorgeous" crossed over to the states in lieu of fucking "Wonderwall." (On the other hand, I've never heard of Ocean Colour Scene or Suede, so perhaps I did win the cultural export lottery.)
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Post by guttersnipe on Apr 7, 2017 11:40:08 GMT -8
Well, as you said, they tried to sell a sort of hybrid sound of house and rock which didn't really excel as either, and resulted in a kind of edgy-cute that may have foreshadowed the mainstream explosion of the paradox that is pop-punk. On the strength of the two singles I'm familiar with, I think they survive as 'amiable enough'.
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Post by Quiara on Apr 7, 2017 14:13:13 GMT -8
"Edgy-cute" is... actually the perfect way to describe 'em. A+ descriptor!
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Post by Quiara on Apr 12, 2017 13:05:11 GMT -8
Republica - Speed Ballads (1998)I'll admit it, guys. I looked at that heavily airbrushed portrait of Ms. Saffron on the album cover, looking like the protagonist of a third-rate cyberpunk novel with her goofy fur boa, and I thought to myself, "jesus this album is going to be shit." So I gave it a spin, figuring that, like, you know what, I wouldn't mind listening to a cruddy house album. Except... it turned out to be a decent pop album! Right after I peg these guys as a house group in pop-rock drag, they turn around and become a pop-rock band in house drag. Which on first listen made me think "God damn it, guys, pick a genre and stick with it!" But I've listened to the album three times now (I know, I know) and it's sort of grown on me, largely because it's so counterintuitive. Here's a good example: There's a track on the album called "Millennium" about, uh, Y2K (I didn't mention this on their debut but this band has "mid 90's" tattooed in the shape of an L on its forehead), and the production is suitably electronic for the first fifteen seconds or so. Until the guitar comes in and the song takes a hard veer into Steppenwolf territory for about two minutes, until out of nowhere comes a frickin' violin solo?? A lot of the album feels like this, where the Garbage blip boop stuff is the glue holding together a bunch of genre mashups that are hypothetically nonsensical but sound absolutely normal here. The album has a bit too much glue, if you ask me, where the strength of the compositions is slightly marred by all the Garbage blip boop stuff. The big surprise here is how weirdly... pedestrian the subject matter is. Like, half the songs on this album are about sitting in your room, eating Haagen Daaz and watching Bruce Lee flicks. (There's literally a song on this album called "Kung Fu Movies" which is about watching... well, you know.) Which is weirdly earnest, much more so than the "I'm gonna beat people up and have lots of wild sex, motherfucker!!!" vibe of their previous album. It's more Ballads than Speed, in other words, and more girly than gynoid. And actually surprisingly good. Not a masterpiece but like, four-out-of-five-stars good.
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Post by Zarnium on Apr 30, 2017 18:06:59 GMT -8
I haven't listened to an entire album at once in.... almost ever, but I found this and this just now, and I don't know whether to be amazed or horrified?
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Post by Quiara on Apr 30, 2017 18:42:14 GMT -8
I haven't listened to an entire album at once in.... almost ever, but I found this and this just now, and I don't know whether to be amazed or horrified? This must be what guttersnipe feels like when he hears someone raving about La La Land. Like, I really like mashups, like, really really like them. I've even made a couple myself. Which means that my Youtube recommendations are filled with mashups. (Or invitations to listen to "Drop Dead Gorgeous" again. You've recommended the video fifty times YouTube, take the hint.) And I listen to most of them, and most of them... are not good. Not just not good, like, actively awful. Like, there are uninspired mashups-- take instrumental and have the Smash Mouth guy sing over it-- but there are so many people who don't even realize that you need to adjust the songs so the vocals and instruments are in the same tempo, let alone the same key. Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that Mouth Sounds/Silence/Moods ruined mashups by dint of being so good. (Zarn, you have heard these albums, right?)
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Post by Zarnium on Apr 30, 2017 19:38:28 GMT -8
Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that Mouth Sounds/Silence/Moods ruined mashups by dint of being so good. (Zarn, you have heard these albums, right?) Nope, I am somewhat musically illiterate. But I wouldn't say that either of those mashups are particularly good per se, just that I find them kind of amusing, since the latest meme craze seems to be taking Smash Mouth or Lazytown songs and doing all manner of bizarre things to them whether it makes actual musical sense or not.
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Post by ThirdMan on May 1, 2017 0:19:22 GMT -8
I find it rather difficult to discuss music in any great detail, or more specifically, put across exactly why this song or album works for me above so many others. People can talk about melodies, grooves, technical skill, or smart and/or meaningful lyrics, but more often than not, it's just the style of the music that appeals to someone, and there may be no rhyme or reason (relating to those things above) beyond that. And most people who say they're into "all kinds of music", if you actually looked at their CD/record collection, or the playlist on their iPod, it's 80% or more similar material, and some other random things that they barely ever listen to.
There's so much music available at our fingertips these days that it's hard to find much common ground. And recommending music to most people is generally a complete waste of time. Either they're locked into their pattern of only listening to a few mainstream artists, or they listen to so much music that they develop a fussy snob attitude that looks down upon anyone who isn't totally enamoured with, or familiar with, this or that hip new artist (that will probably be forgotten in five years' time).
And right now, more than any time in the past (that I can recall), I find myself as indifferent to the many critically-acclaimed artists/albums out there as I am to the critically-reviled ones. It seems like there's a finer line between the two than ever, and without actually reading some reviews, I find it awfully tough to figure out why Artist A gets gets praised while the very similar Artist B gets trashed.
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Post by Quiara on May 1, 2017 3:14:12 GMT -8
Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that Mouth Sounds/Silence/Moods ruined mashups by dint of being so good. (Zarn, you have heard these albums, right?) Nope, I am somewhat musically illiterate. But I wouldn't say that either of those mashups are particularly good per se, just that I find them kind of amusing, since the latest meme craze seems to be taking Smash Mouth or Lazytown songs and doing all manner of bizarre things to them whether it makes actual musical sense or not. Ok, but dude, you need to listen to Mouth Moods. It is without irony my favorite album of the year. And literally every track had me laughing my ass off on first listen.
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Post by Zarnium on May 2, 2017 12:48:22 GMT -8
I listened to it, that was pretty nifty. Where did that whole CD spiel come from?
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Post by Quiara on May 3, 2017 3:02:09 GMT -8
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