Quiara
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Post by Quiara on Sept 17, 2017 18:08:23 GMT -8
Who the heck is the announcer this year? He was actively terrible for the first hour and only now chilled out. He's doing a very bad job at being "hip..."
On the other hand, the band playing "Heaven Is A Place On Earth" for Charlie Brooker was great.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 17, 2017 18:24:18 GMT -8
Who the heck is the announcer this year? He was actively terrible for the first hour and only now chilled out. He's doing a very bad job at being "hip..." It's Jermaine Fowler, star of Superior Donuts. He's clearly... excited to be hosting (his announcement of "ISSA RAE!" threw me for a loop), but he's still better than the 2011 announcer. (No, I still have not gotten over the 2011 announcer.)
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Post by Quiara on Sept 17, 2017 18:44:12 GMT -8
Who the heck is the announcer this year? He was actively terrible for the first hour and only now chilled out. He's doing a very bad job at being "hip..." It's Jermaine Fowler, star of Superior Donuts. He's clearly... excited to be hosting (his announcement of "ISSA RAE!" threw me for a loop), but he's still better than the 2011 announcer. (No, I still have not gotten over the 2011 announcer.) You remember the 2011 Emmys??
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 17, 2017 19:27:59 GMT -8
Dude, I remember the 2005 Emmys. Ellen hosting. Lost getting celebrated. Donald Trump singing songs while dressed as a farmer. Good times.
Anyway, pros and cons:
+ I wish I had stuck with my original prediction for Handmaid's Tale. Guess I should have had more faith in the Emmys after all. Oh well, I'm glad it won, even if I imagine the voters' reasons had less to do with quality than politics. + Sterling K. Brown's acceptance speech was awesome. + I was surprised by how thoroughly Big Little Lies whomped the competition. I expected Feud to win something, but nope. BLL only faced real opposition in the categories where it could compete against Black Mirror. + Yay Master of None! And Donald Glover! + Sean Spicer. Made even better by Melissa's reaction.
- Good gosh, were the political jokes unfunny. Colbert makes a joke about how the popular vote matters here, which would be nice if Katy Perry hadn't made the exact same joke at the VMAs last month. Thankfully, the actual political vitriol was subdued, but stuff like the 9 to 5 reunion (set up so Lily Tomlin could deliver the clunkiest line of the evening) just fell flat. - Most of the awards were pretty routine, and the presentations dry. - The sketches were not funny. The "Interview with Emmy" skit was cute on paper but kind of annoying onscreen. - Veep and Julia Louis-Dreyfus win again. Yawn. - Fowler really needed to settle down. - The "diversity" clip-show was too short to be effective, and felt tacked on.
As far as Emmy ceremonies go, this is one of the weaker ones I've sat through. Ah well, better luck next time.
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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 17, 2017 19:42:14 GMT -8
Most people I've seen counted Spicer's inclusion as a major negative. As in, don't lightheartedly include someone who's done so much damage.
And of course anyone on the Conservative side isn't likely to respond to humour that leans the other way. Colbert went pretty easy on said politicians tonight, though.
Anyways, most of the winners seem fine. Now I'm wondering if I should just watch that one episode of Black Mirror or the entire series. I realize there aren't very many episodes, but being an anthology series...
I started watching the show off my DVR about 80 minutes into it, and finished twenty minutes after eight. It's nice to be able to skip by the extended commercial breaks and the Reality TV crap.
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Post by Quiara on Sept 17, 2017 19:48:24 GMT -8
Most people I've seen counted Spicer's inclusion as a major negative. As in, don't lightheartedly include someone who's done so much damage. I think you're greatly overrating the Press Secretary's political power... (see also, THE MOOCH! with whom Colbert has been pretty chummy) Watching several of the show's better episodes might give you an idea what makes "San Junipero" special-- you don't need to watch all of it but there's probably a sampling of five or so episodes that'd give you the gist.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 17, 2017 19:57:32 GMT -8
Well, given how much people laugh at the fake Spicer on SNL, I think we can survive having a brief laugh with the real one, particularly given that he's no longer affiliated with Trump, and is one of the few political figures nowadays who actually has a sense of humor.
And no, Colbert wasn't as biting as he could have been. Still, I just found much of the comedy forced. That's not unusual for the Emmys, but it's more noticeable when it gets more political.
Oh, I also thought Cecily Tyson's appearance with Tracie Ellis Ross was cool. Any reference to Roots is awesome.
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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 17, 2017 21:00:59 GMT -8
Most people I've seen counted Spicer's inclusion as a major negative. As in, don't lightheartedly include someone who's done so much damage. I think you're greatly overrating the Press Secretary's political power... (see also, THE MOOCH! with whom Colbert has been pretty chummy) Oh, I was just speaking to others' reaction. I don't really care, one way or the other. With the cult of personality being what it is, and politicians regularly showing up in comedy skits while they're running for -- or are even in -- office, the line between Serious Issues and farce is frequently blurred.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 18, 2017 13:35:11 GMT -8
Ouch. For the third consecutive year, Emmy ratings have hit an all-time low.
Two possible reasons: First, and more obviously, there's the political climate. Many people are tired of being lectured by Hollywood elites, and don't want to tune in for what they assume will be 3 hours of Trump-bashing. (I think the ratings could have gone over better if CBS had recruited James Corden to host instead of Colbert, given Corden's more affable persona.)
But the other issue is that, given the sheer amount of TV shows airing these days, there are many, many people who don't watch the shows up for nominations. (This is especially true in a year where Game of Thrones was ineligible.) Sure, This Is Us and Westworld have great ratings, but compared to high-rated shows from the '90s (and even the 2000s), their viewership is pretty weak.
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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 18, 2017 14:03:21 GMT -8
Yeah, it's probably those two things. I mean, the winner for Drama Series was on freakin' Hulu. And yes, Trump supporters aren't going to tune in, or they'll tune out pretty quickly once the jokes start to fly. Some of them probably don't like so many POC winning awards, either.
But, really, who cares? You think they're gonna stop broadcasting the Emmys? Even on a bad year, the ratings are still considerably higher than most shows.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 18, 2017 14:17:59 GMT -8
No, it's not like the Emmys will be "cancelled" anytime soon. But ratings (despite the rise of DVRs and streaming) are still a good way to gauge public interest in these events. Once upon a time, the public was interested; nowadays, not so much.
Hollywood could probably boost the ratings by (1) cutting down the politics and (2) making fewer TV shows, but I don't see either thing happening in the near future.
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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 18, 2017 14:36:17 GMT -8
It's interesting that the Oscars draw between two- and three-times as many viewers as the Emmys. They still did 32 million, even with a film that only did around $25 million in domestic business winning Best Picture. And it's not like that broadcast didn't engage in Trump-bashing.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 18, 2017 15:24:40 GMT -8
The Oscars have the benefit of movie stars, who attract more attention than TV actors do. (Though on the other hand, the abundance of movie stars up for Emmy noms didn't help much this year.) Still, they've also been floundering in recent years, thanks in part to niche films and politics. Incidentally, Colbert was only half-right in stating that Trump has never won an Emmy. While it's true that he never won an official award, Trump did win the 2005 Emmy Idol competition (which was determined by audience votes, rather than the Academy) for the farmer thing.
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Post by Quiara on Sept 19, 2017 8:45:53 GMT -8
So what you're saying is, Donald Trump did win the popular vote?
This is an original joke no one has ever made before.
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Post by Jeremy on May 25, 2018 5:26:38 GMT -8
So, the TV season is drawing to an end this week. And... Game of Thrones and Atlanta are winning all the Emmys, right? I mean, Atlanta might get some competition from a newcomer like The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, but Thrones, during its eligible years, is forever going to decimate the competition.
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