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Post by Jeremy on Sept 22, 2019 19:19:38 GMT -8
Ouch. I got 3 "Will Wins" and 4 "Could Wins" right, but those last 3 really threw me for a curve. Not that I'm complaining - Fleabag rocks.
(Okay, I'm kind of complaining - Bandersnatch beating Deadwood is idiotic.)
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Post by Quiara on Sept 22, 2019 20:34:30 GMT -8
Ouch. I got 3 "Will Wins" and 4 "Could Wins" right, but those last 3 really threw me for a curve. Not that I'm complaining - Fleabag rocks. (Okay, I'm kind of complaining - Bandersnatch beating Deadwood is idiotic.) I'd like to think Deadwood did win, in the universe where the Academy had Sugar Puffs in the morning.
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Post by guttersnipe on Sept 23, 2019 4:16:39 GMT -8
So... I don't feel it's necessary to lecture anyone here about tokenism, but I also caught a domestic news piece yesterday about how "the Brits are coming" and how exciting it will be for us to make an impact over there, and I can't felt but feel that all the British accolades are basically being heaped upon one person (indeed, I can't move today for images of Pheebs struggling with armfuls of trophies). Now, if we were talking about some post-colonial nation that's finally being recognised whatsoever overseas after extended periods in political and economic wilderness, I'd get it, but this is one that not only invented television but has created a high volume of quality programmes for decades, so let's try and be realistic and give credit where it's due. I'm aware I'm probably coming off like Guy Maddin after The Artist got Best Picture, but like I say, we've been (and are) making better than Fleabag for aeons (incidentally, A Very English Scandal (which broadcast here well over a year ago) is one of them).
Otherwise I can't really comment on anything, though I did see about six minutes of that Black Mirror episode when someone showed it to me at work. And like all other awards ceremonies, in twenty-hours' time I'll forget about the whole thing.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 23, 2019 11:06:02 GMT -8
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Post by otherscott on Sept 23, 2019 11:35:32 GMT -8
I guess I've never really seen the appeal in watching award ceremonies. Why not watch something I actually enjoy and then see who has won the awards online either as they are happening, or the next morning? Jeremy, can you explain to me the benefits of dedicating my Sunday night to watching the Emmys?
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 23, 2019 14:23:52 GMT -8
The chief benefit of watching the Emmys as it airs is that you get to live-tweet snarky comments about how terrible the ceremony is and why the voters have terrible opinions. You can mock the lame attempts at humor, the ridiculous outfits, the blatant politics, and the idea that people still think the Emmys matter to anyone outside of Hollywood. (Apparently they don't, given the disastrous ratings to last night's show.)
Beyond that... yeah, there's really no compelling reason to watch the show, or most award ceremonies for that matter. But I've been watching the Emmys pretty regularly for the last 15 years, and I still tolerate them, and they occasionally deliver a half-decent show. (They just... didn't last night.)
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Post by guttersnipe on Sept 23, 2019 16:05:39 GMT -8
Ta. I routinely watched the Oscars until 2012 in spite of some of the incredibly awkward banter from the speakers, so I'm pretty indifferent on the matter of hosting (isn't it great to see actors who get paid more per work than you'll earn in your lifetime struggling to convince in a live context?).
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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 23, 2019 16:14:59 GMT -8
Though I didn't get home last night until Jodie Comer got her award, I generally treat awards shows the same as I would sporting events. They don't require my full attention, so I sometimes just throw them on in the background when I'm online for a few hours. Then their relative entertainment value is a moot point. Muliple times every year, someone says, "Worst award broadcast ever", to which I'd respond, virtually all of these shows have a few memorable moments set adrift in a sea of blandness, and that will likely never change. It's just not a compelling format, and many performers just aren't good at giving speeches or reading off of teleprompters. So get over it. Either do what I do or don't watch at all, and read the results and/or watch the few highlights online later.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 23, 2019 16:54:46 GMT -8
Well, I spent most of the ceremony on my phone (how millennial of me, right?), tweeting semi-cynical quips and seeing how others were reacting. Had I not wanted to write an article about the event afterwards, I would probably not have sat through so much of it. But I mean, the memorable moments were even sparser than usual this time - the only legitimately funny moment was the Ben Stiller/Bob Newhart bit. Most of the show just felt undernourished.
I should add that the only awards ceremonies I watch regularly are the Emmys and the Oscars. I never tune into the Tonys or the Grammys, and I've never sat through a full Golden Globes. I have some time to waste, but not that much.
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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 23, 2019 17:00:30 GMT -8
Honestly, entertainment-wise, the Globes are usually the best. Everyone's half-drunk, and there's far less of what many folks would consider "filler", because they're doing movies and TV.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 23, 2019 17:44:02 GMT -8
True, but the Globes are less fun to knock off their perch. They typically nominate big, popular TV shows and don't put a lot of effort into their ceremonies. Meanwhile, the Emmys nominate smaller, more acclaimed shows, but often in tone-deaf ways (i.e. repeatedly nominating a show even years after it loses quality). I almost feel bad about mocking the Globes, since they're not really trying to be taken seriously in the first place; the Emmys clearly are, and thus are easier for me to thumb my nose at.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 18, 2020 12:23:51 GMT -8
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Post by Quiara on Sept 21, 2020 10:03:12 GMT -8
No real upsets other than Zendaya in the major categories, but some of the "lesser" categories had some surprise wins. Actually, I don't know how much Uzo Aduba winning is an upset but I'm happy for her anyway.
Less happy for Unorthodox somehow beating Watchmen in the directing categories - actually, not entirely sure how Unorthodox got any nominations at all? - but I suppose it's perversely good it won, because it means I'll get to read a Jeremy article mocking it.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 21, 2020 15:29:27 GMT -8
I don't know if I'll write a post-Emmy thinkpiece this year - partly because I only watched about half the ceremony (airing it immediately after the New Year holiday was rather inconvenient), and didn't really get much of an impression from it. Some of Kimmel's jokes were fine (he sorely needed a live audience), they handled the social-distance thing well enough, but it just came off as tedious, as did every winner repeatedly reminding me to vote.
I probably should've seen Aduba's win coming, since she's a past Emmy favorite and there was clearly more of a push this year towards black actors. I'm amazed how Schitt's Creek dominated the evening - I believe it's the first TV show in history to completely sweep an Emmy genre - especially since it had never won a single Emmy before (and didn't even receive any nominations until last year).
At some point I may still write a piece about the various TV miniseries (or limited series, or whatever) of 2020; I just need to get my writing schedule back on track first.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 19, 2021 7:20:33 GMT -8
No time to do a full predictions article this year, but I'll quickly jot down some guesses.
Outstanding Drama
Will Win: The Crown Might Win: Bridgerton
Outstanding Comedy
Will Win: Ted Lasso Might Win: Dude, it'll be Ted Lasso
Outstanding Limited Series
Will Win: The Queen's Gambit Might Win: I May Destroy You
Lead Actor in a Comedy Series
Will Win: Jason Sudeikis, Ted Lasso Might Win: Just give him the Emmy early and save us the time
Lead Actress in a Comedy Series
Will Win: Jean Smart, Hacks Might Win: Allison Janney, Mom
Lead Actor in a Drama Series
Will Win: Regé-Jean Page, Bridgerton Might Win: Josh O'Connor, The Crown
Lead Actress in a Drama Series
Will Win: Olivia Colman, The Crown Might Win: Emma Corrin, The Crown
Lead Actor in a Limited or Anthology Series or Movie
Will Win: Hugh Grant, The Undoing Might Win: Paul Bettany, WandaVision
Lead Actress in a Limited or Anthology Series or Movie
Will Win: Anya Taylor-Joy, The Queen's Gambit Might Win: Kate Winslet, Mare of Easttown
Overall, this looks like a good night for Netflix, with The Queen's Gambit and The Crown (up for its best and buzziest season) looking to give them their first two Outstanding Series awards. And Ted Lasso has pretty much locked down a couple of top comedy awards, unless the Emmys have suddenly gotten really invested in Emilis in Paris. As usual, the main suspense is with the limited series categories, since that's where most of the A-listers tend to be clustered. (Why is Hamilton up for consideration? Of course, I called it a film last year, so maybe I'm part of the problem.)
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