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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 19, 2021 12:38:18 GMT -8
I suppose I should do the seven-day free-trial of Apple+, and barrel through every episode of Ted Lasso, at some point.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 19, 2021 13:52:48 GMT -8
I recently bought a new Apple device, which comes with three free months of Apple TV+. (It used to be a year free, but Apple figured out that was a bit excessive even for them.) So I will be able to watch the new seasons of Ted Lasso, Mythic Quest, Central Park, et al. without paying them a penny! Take that, Tim Cook or whoever's in charge of this.
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Post by Incandescence 112 on Sept 19, 2021 15:27:49 GMT -8
I recently bought a new Apple device, which comes with three free months of Apple TV+. (It used to be a year free, but Apple figured out that was a bit excessive even for them.) So I will be able to watch the new seasons of Ted Lasso, Mythic Quest, Central Park, et al. without paying them a penny! Take that, Tim Cook or whoever's in charge of this. Once you do that, you can jump right into the Ted Lasso discourse! It's been having a rather controversial sophomore season.
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 20, 2021 13:54:40 GMT -8
I'm not going to write a full piece about the Emmys, mostly since the first hour was very dull and annoying and I only tuned in intermittently after that. Did not laugh at the jokes, and found the whole ceremony to be cluttered and disjointed. (Why did they announce the nominees before introducing the presenters?)
Did not expect The Crown to completely sweep the Drama category (much like Schitt's Creek did last year), though admittedly most of the competition wasn't very Emmy-ish. Glad that Hacks got some love - it's one of the best shows of 2021, but has had difficulty gaining traction in the larger discourse. The Queen's Gambit vs. Mare of Easttown competition was probably the most interesting of the night, even if the former had the leg up from the Creative Arts awards. (All together, The Crown and Queen's Gambit each won 11 Emmys this year, far more than any non-Netflix shows.)
The good news for the Academy is that... this wasn't a ratings disaster? Nominating shows that people recognize is something of a boon, and the viewing numbers this year were the highest since 2018. Still far from great, but I'm sure they've tempered their expectations at this point.
I find it vaguely funny that the Academy touted the unprecedented diversity in this year's nomination pool, only for the overwhelming majority of winners (including for all 12 acting awards) to be white people. #EmmysSoWhite briefly trended last night, showing us once again that Hollywood can't win.
#EmmysSoBritish also briefly trended, because holy cow, there were a lot of winners from across the pond. Not that I'm criticizing the actors themselves (most of whom were quite good in their respective shows), but save some for the BAFTAs, folks.
(Also, Hamilton is not a "variety special," and I will hear nothing more on the matter.)
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Post by ThirdMan on Sept 20, 2021 15:31:42 GMT -8
Well, I'm glad that Alyson Hannigan was able to collect a paycheck for that therapy sketch with Jason Alexander, Scott Bakula, Fred Savage, and Zooey Deschannel, at any rate.
I usually DVR these awards shows (if I watch them at all), and start watching them when (live) they're half over. I usually finish ten-to-fifteen minutes after they go off the air, at the most. It's much easier to get through without all the commercials and filler wraparound segments. I never have high expectations for the entertainment value of awards shows, because they're too dependent on the quality of the speeches, which are always gonna be hit-or-miss. Scott Frank's was incredibly self-indulgent and arrogant; thank goodness the other producer of Queen's Gambit spoke instead when the actual show won. Conan trying to hijack the show for a few minutes was the funniest thing on the program. I can't believe how cheap the visual-effects were on that SuperBowl boat party parody with Cedric.
Anyways, hopefully What We Do In The Shadows gets some love in the acting categories (at least nominations) next year, when it's eligible again. Too often, the acting awards for Comedy go to dramedies, because so many people misguidedly think that dramatic acting is more difficult than full-blown comedic performances.
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Post by otherscott on Sept 20, 2021 19:31:14 GMT -8
I can't get excited for the Emmy's since it has become a full on popularity contest. I have to think they destroyed the prestige of their own awards show by changing the format from forcing the voters to watch x episodes of the drama nominees plus a selected episode of each category...to just not having to watch anything.
I understand the Academy's rationale of "we don't have time to watch all this stuff" - but if you don't have time to watch all the nominees, maybe you shouldn't be voting? When it comes down to the Emmys nowadays, it's just a sweep for whatever the most voters are watching - like The Crown in this case, and you just don't see that variety of deserving winners from all sorts of shows.
Am I wrong? Does the Emmy's have any real credibility remaining?
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Post by Incandescence 112 on Sept 21, 2021 16:00:58 GMT -8
I'm not going to write a full piece about the Emmys, mostly since the first hour was very dull and annoying and I only tuned in intermittently after that. Did not laugh at the jokes, and found the whole ceremony to be cluttered and disjointed. (Why did they announce the nominees before introducing the presenters?) Did not expect The Crown to completely sweep the Drama category (much like Schitt's Creek did last year), though admittedly most of the competition wasn't very Emmy-ish. Glad that Hacks got some love - it's one of the best shows of 2021, but has had difficulty gaining traction in the larger discourse. The Queen's Gambit vs. Mare of Easttown competition was probably the most interesting of the night, even if the former had the leg up from the Creative Arts awards. (All together, The Crown and Queen's Gambit each won 11 Emmys this year, far more than any non-Netflix shows.) The good news for the Academy is that... this wasn't a ratings disaster? Nominating shows that people recognize is something of a boon, and the viewing numbers this year were the highest since 2018. Still far from great, but I'm sure they've tempered their expectations at this point. I find it vaguely funny that the Academy touted the unprecedented diversity in this year's nomination pool, only for the overwhelming majority of winners (including for all 12 acting awards) to be white people. #EmmysSoWhite briefly trended last night, showing us once again that Hollywood can't win. #EmmysSoBritish also briefly trended, because holy cow, there were a lot of winners from across the pond. Not that I'm criticizing the actors themselves (most of whom were quite good in their respective shows), but save some for the BAFTAs, folks. (Also, Hamilton is not a "variety special," and I will hear nothing more on the matter.) Well, that's a miserable line-up. Remember when tv was good? Like, 7 years ago?
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Post by Jeremy on Sept 22, 2021 20:31:20 GMT -8
I usually DVR these awards shows (if I watch them at all), and start watching them when (live) they're half over. I usually finish ten-to-fifteen minutes after they go off the air, at the most. It's much easier to get through without all the commercials and filler wraparound segments. I sometimes do this, but the problem is it's more difficult to snark about the show on social media when you're not watching it live. These are the pros and cons I grapple with. I can't get excited for the Emmy's since it has become a full on popularity contest. I have to think they destroyed the prestige of their own awards show by changing the format from forcing the voters to watch x episodes of the drama nominees plus a selected episode of each category...to just not having to watch anything. I understand the Academy's rationale of "we don't have time to watch all this stuff" - but if you don't have time to watch all the nominees, maybe you shouldn't be voting? When it comes down to the Emmys nowadays, it's just a sweep for whatever the most voters are watching - like The Crown in this case, and you just don't see that variety of deserving winners from all sorts of shows. Am I wrong? Does the Emmy's have any real credibility remaining? I think this is fair. The rule change (circa 2015) to allow all Academy members to vote in all categories was immediately a bad idea, since the most well-known shows are bound to get more attention, particularly for the top prizes. (It also makes it easier for a show like The Crown or Schitt's Creek to completely sweep a category, which was unheard of in the old days.) The Emmys haven't mattered in years, but the amount of rubber-stamping brought about by the new rules has only added to its general irrelevance. Well, that's a miserable line-up. Remember when tv was good? Like, 7 years ago? The 2020-21 season was inevitably going to be a rough one for new television. But hey, the vacancies allowed for a lot of quality sci-fi and fantasy shows to get top nominations (even if none of them won any major awards), so I guess it wasn't a total loss.
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Post by Incandescence 112 on Sept 24, 2021 8:00:57 GMT -8
I usually DVR these awards shows (if I watch them at all), and start watching them when (live) they're half over. I usually finish ten-to-fifteen minutes after they go off the air, at the most. It's much easier to get through without all the commercials and filler wraparound segments. I sometimes do this, but the problem is it's more difficult to snark about the show on social media when you're not watching it live. These are the pros and cons I grapple with. I can't get excited for the Emmy's since it has become a full on popularity contest. I have to think they destroyed the prestige of their own awards show by changing the format from forcing the voters to watch x episodes of the drama nominees plus a selected episode of each category...to just not having to watch anything. I understand the Academy's rationale of "we don't have time to watch all this stuff" - but if you don't have time to watch all the nominees, maybe you shouldn't be voting? When it comes down to the Emmys nowadays, it's just a sweep for whatever the most voters are watching - like The Crown in this case, and you just don't see that variety of deserving winners from all sorts of shows. Am I wrong? Does the Emmy's have any real credibility remaining? I think this is fair. The rule change (circa 2015) to allow all Academy members to vote in all categories was immediately a bad idea, since the most well-known shows are bound to get more attention, particularly for the top prizes. (It also makes it easier for a show like The Crown or Schitt's Creek to completely sweep a category, which was unheard of in the old days.) The Emmys haven't mattered in years, but the amount of rubber-stamping brought about by the new rules has only added to its general irrelevance. Well, that's a miserable line-up. Remember when tv was good? Like, 7 years ago? The 2020-21 season was inevitably going to be a rough one for new television. But hey, the vacancies allowed for a lot of quality sci-fi and fantasy shows to get top nominations (even if none of them won any major awards), so I guess it wasn't a total loss. Oh, yeah, I'm quite forgiving of that. I just think it was kinda going downhill even before covid.
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