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Post by Incandescence 112 on Jul 21, 2018 10:46:43 GMT -8
Apparently, Buffy's being rebooted. Joss isn't a writer on it, but he's executive producing. I've heard rumors about a Buffy reboot for years, but I never actually took it seriously. So, the question is, can they please bring back Firefly?
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Post by ThirdMan on Jul 21, 2018 13:22:47 GMT -8
Firefly would have to have a different cast, because Fillion's now busy with some generic rookie cop show.
Re: the BtVS reboot, I don't know why they can't just do a spinoff with a different Slayer. At any rate, I'm not much interested.
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Post by PBTD on Jul 21, 2018 15:37:21 GMT -8
Is this a joke? What conceivable purpose would there be to reboot an already cult series that likely won't bring in any kind of significant revenue? Why is Joss even on board with this? If it were one of the two, fine, it they want to throw money at a franchise that there is little reason to be confident in it but Joss won't be dragged down with it, fine. But both questionable financial decisions and the beloved creator moving forward with what could possibly tarnish a great series's legacy? Why does this world never cease to disappoint me?
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Post by Quiara on Jul 22, 2018 7:37:47 GMT -8
Firefly would have to have a different cast, because Fillion's now busy with some generic rookie cop show. Also because Ron Glass is dead. Is this a joke? What conceivable purpose would there be to reboot an already cult series that likely won't bring in any kind of significant revenue? Why is Joss even on board with this? If it were one of the two, fine, it they want to throw money at a franchise that there is little reason to be confident in it but Joss won't be dragged down with it, fine. But both questionable financial decisions and the beloved creator moving forward with what could possibly tarnish a great series's legacy? Why does this world never cease to disappoint me? About the same reason there is to reboot any given 80's/90's IP, I suppose. I don't think this is likely to be a bomb - though I fully suspect it'll be a flop, not to mention an artistic failure. I would be curious to see what a Buffy reboot would look like in 2018, given how much television and feminism have changed in the interim. But the factors that gave the original show time to find its feet (fledgling network, mid-season replacement, no real expectations) aren't going to be here. |
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Post by PBTD on Jul 22, 2018 9:32:28 GMT -8
It's just one of those financial decisions that's so ridiculously stupid I wonder how they are made by the same people who consistently bring in the big bucks. My only fathomable guess is that they get bored every once in a while and just want to see where the train wreck goes.
If going by modern standards, Buffy will be a one dimensional badass who beats the shit out of every monster of the week (and there will be more of those replacing the less creative but much more character driven one-offs) because that's how you portray strong female characters in the modern era.
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Post by Jeremy on Jul 22, 2018 9:52:02 GMT -8
According to the press releases I've seen, the new Buffy will likely be black. (Whether or not she'll be named Buffy, or have a different name with the Slayer moniker, remains to be seen.) The show will be run by Monica Breen, a former Agents of SHIELD writer who's also worked on a number of JJ Abrams shows. I'm not sure what to make of this at the early stage. Breen is a good writer, and I suppose enough time has passed (15 years) for the original series to have settled into a nostalgic groove. (Heck, Charmed is returning after only 12 years.) But unless they take things in an all-new direction, it'll doubtlessly get hammered with negative comparisons to the original. Presumably, it'll be more serialized, though whether that results in a strong cable run or a dull streaming bloat remains to be seen. Firefly would have to have a different cast, because Fillion's now busy with some generic rookie cop show. And that show is called... The Rookie! Well played, Fillion. |
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Post by Quiara on Jul 22, 2018 12:40:33 GMT -8
According to the press releases I've seen, the new Buffy will likely be black. Well, if you're looking for a way to improve upon the source material, its race politics would be a good place to start. Is this happening post-"Chosen" ? Is this a hard reboot? Either way, the comics aren't canon anymore, right? |
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Post by Incandescence 112 on Jul 22, 2018 13:29:56 GMT -8
Firefly would have to have a different cast, because Fillion's now busy with some generic rookie cop show. Also because Ron Glass is dead. Is this a joke? What conceivable purpose would there be to reboot an already cult series that likely won't bring in any kind of significant revenue? Why is Joss even on board with this? If it were one of the two, fine, it they want to throw money at a franchise that there is little reason to be confident in it but Joss won't be dragged down with it, fine. But both questionable financial decisions and the beloved creator moving forward with what could possibly tarnish a great series's legacy? Why does this world never cease to disappoint me? About the same reason there is to reboot any given 80's/90's IP, I suppose. I don't think this is likely to be a bomb - though I fully suspect it'll be a flop, not to mention an artistic failure. I would be curious to see what a Buffy reboot would look like in 2018, given how much television and feminism have changed in the interim. But the factors that gave the original show time to find its feet (fledgling network, mid-season replacement, no real expectations) aren't going to be here. I suspect that as well. The thing that made the show so great was Mutant Enemy, not the actual mythology, which wasn't anything special by fantasy standards. Without those writers, I'm not that interested. It'll probably be far inferior to the fantastic show The Magicians, which is sort of like the modern Buffy. |
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Post by Jeremy on Jul 22, 2018 14:51:24 GMT -8
Is this happening post-"Chosen" ? Is this a hard reboot? Either way, the comics aren't canon anymore, right? I doubt it'll be a direct sequel. The writers will have it much easier if they start over the mythology from scratch. (And that keeps the comics canon with the original series.) Given the track record of most recent reboots, I'm not expecting much. But hey, I wasn't expecting much from the original Buffy before I watched it, either. In any case, I'll be interested to see which network/streaming service picks it up. |
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Post by ThirdMan on Jul 22, 2018 18:14:37 GMT -8
It'll have higher production values, and the acting might be a bit more consistent, across the board, than BtVS was in the early going. But otherwise, it's certainly unlikely to have anywhere near the impact (on other television writers, the landscape of TV, etc.) the original did.
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Post by PBTD on Jul 22, 2018 18:23:28 GMT -8
According to the press releases I've seen, the new Buffy will likely be black. (Whether or not she'll be named Buffy, or have a different name with the Slayer moniker, remains to be seen.) The show will be run by Monica Breen, a former Agents of SHIELD writer who's also worked on a number of JJ Abrams shows. I'm not sure what to make of this at the early stage. Breen is a good writer, and I suppose enough time has passed (15 years) for the original series to have settled into a nostalgic groove. (Heck, Charmed is returning after only 12 years.) But unless they take things in an all-new direction, it'll doubtlessly get hammered with negative comparisons to the original. Presumably, it'll be more serialized, though whether that results in a strong cable run or a dull streaming bloat remains to be seen. Firefly would have to have a different cast, because Fillion's now busy with some generic rookie cop show. And that show is called... The Rookie! Well played, Fillion. Much prefer dull streaming bloats. As poorly paced as many stream service dramas can be, they tend to do characterization more justice then the average television series. And why not a Hispanic Slayer? Why when they decide to politicize fiction is it always a black character? It just makes the pc pandering even more obvious. They aren"t attempting to provide more representation so much as just doing enough to silence that crowd. |
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Post by Jeremy on Jul 22, 2018 18:53:37 GMT -8
As a matter of fact, there is another mythology-based WB series which is getting rebooted with an Hispanic cast! (I referenced it earlier in this thread.)
Oh, and the new One Day at a Time is quite good.
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Post by Zarnium on Jul 23, 2018 5:32:47 GMT -8
Eh, if I have a chance to see it, I'll check it out. I don't really care much about it one way or another.
To be fair though, the classic show is already a reboot of the movie. It's not like there's no precedent for this.
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Post by PBTD on Jul 23, 2018 5:59:03 GMT -8
Eh, if I have a chance to see it, I'll check it out. I don't really care much about it one way or another. To be fair though, the classic show is already a reboot of the movie. It's not like there's no precedent for this. The movie was garbage though. It also strengthens the argument that the ip is just not that profitable seeing as two different iterations have already been produced with only moderate initial success. If Buffy were on an already established network it would not have lasted beyond the first season. Also, Charmed was bad, so if they want to bring it back with an all Hispanic cast I'm down. Now all we need is a Supernatural with half-brothers, one Asian and one Middle-Eastern, and the gangs all set. |
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Post by Jeremy on Jul 23, 2018 7:59:43 GMT -8
Ah, but doesn't a show need to end before it can be rebooted?  |
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